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#41 – PERSONAL LIFE Q&A – Political Beliefs + Healing Update + Current Diet & Working In The Weed Industry

TWCK 41 | Personal Life

Today’s episode is a little different from the previous episode. Today we are taking a deep dive into my political views, my most life-changing book, and my thoughts on the current global situation, PLUS an update on my healing journey!

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PERSONAL LIFE Q&A – Political Beliefs + Healing Update + Current Diet & Working In The Weed Industry

How are my Wealthy Coaches? We’re going to change gears a little bit. We are doing a personal Q&A because I’ve been getting lots of personal life questions and I thought it might be fun for you guys to learn more about me. Most of these questions I ever have not seen. This might be an interesting episode. I’m hanging out with my good friend, Tara Thorne. It would be fun to have a friend on here to answer these questions so it’s not me spewing stuff at you, guys. This is me and Tara’s first time hanging out. Let’s dive into these interesting questions and see what happens.

Do you want me to ask you and get going? I’ll ask you the first one.

Ask me, maybe start at the top, work your way down and I’ll give you my most honest and blunt answer.

Somebody asked, “I want to know more about your family and how you grew up.”

I live in Western Canada, but I grew up in Central, Eastern Canada in Ottawa, which is the capital of Canada, not Toronto, for those of you non-Canadians out there. I grew up in a very small county of about 500 people. My mom was a teacher. My dad was an engineer. My brother is three years younger than me. We grew up on the beach of the Ottawa River. We had a little sand beach. I’m very spoiled. I thought it was normal. I did not realize until I got older that it was incredibly amazing. I had a great childhood. Where we live, we were one of the few houses among cottages.

Summertime was so much fun. There were lots of kids. We swam along. We have a yellow raft. We used to do backflips all day long. We dive to the bottom to get clay and then rub it all over our bodies for good skin. That’s how I grew up. We were a pretty active family. My parents are outdoorsy and big skiers. Winter was a lot of skiing, soccer, camping and canoeing. My dad’s a big windsurfer. We were active. When I was nineteen, I moved out to Calgary because I always wanted to move West. Eventually, my parents followed me and they now live in Vernon, which is about five hours north of where I live. My brother’s still in Toronto. He is a musician and an engineer.

It’s an interesting combo. He loves the music, but he’s an incredibly talented designer and engineer. He designs lights for subways, trains and transit. He designs these lights systems. He works three days a week during that. He showed out and dropped a new album from his band called Sex Laser on Spotify. Check that out. It’s electronic and pretty good. He also makes custom-made electric guitars. If you want a custom-made electric guitar, hit me up and I will connect you.

Let’s move on to the next question. Where are you on your healing journey with Dr. Hirsch?

Just some background for everyone, I started working with Dr. Evan Hirsch. He has He’s amazing and I interviewed him on one of my episodes. I brought him into one of my groups. After I interviewed him for the HTMA group, I was like, “Are you taking clients? I want to work with you.” As you guys have probably heard me talk about, I struggled with fatigue for a long time and I’m doing significantly better. When I hired Evan, I was like, “I’m at about a 7 out of 10. Could I make this a 10 out of 10?” We started working together and we’ve done a lot of things. We’ve addressed all tick-borne infections and gut stuff. We’ve done a lot of detoxes. He works primarily with herbs.

At this point, I probably feel the best overall that I’ve felt in about ten years. It’s definitely not perfect. I still want to be more energized. Things are going well. Initially, he thought I had Lyme disease, which was interesting. It came up on a test. With Lyme testing, it’s hard to know is it there or was it there. I’ve been bitten by ticks a lot from working in forestry. I got treated for Lyme but I was able to titrate on the Lymeherbs so quickly. He says a lot of people take maybe around a year or sometimes more to even get to full dose. I got to full dose in 8 to 10 days or something like that. He was like, “I don’t think you’ve got this. That’s not usually what happens.” That was good news. Maybe what was going on was a lot of metals or chemicals. I have H. pylori. I retested my GI map, which I suspected I had all along. I’ve had blasto. I was waiting for it to pop up. I’m excited to see it.

Addressing H. pylori, we’re going after biofilm. He likes the Byron White Formulas and Beyond Balance. It’s all these herbal things. I haven’t done a herbal thing for biofilm before. He says it’s crazy intense. He’s got me on one drop every two weeks. I’m like, “Okay.” I’ve had some mold exposure. One of my mycotoxins was quite high on my last test. It’s hard to tell you’re like, “Am I detoxing it or is it exposure?”

That’s the issue with these functional health tests. A lot of people think that they’re foolproof in what you see is what you get. That’s not the case.

I know. They’re not God.

Let’s move on. It’s coming down the pike, but the next one is quite a tame one. Where do you see yourself in ten years?

It’s a hard question for me to answer. It’s funny because I was thinking about that. I was talking to my partner, Ryan. I was like, “I don’t know where I’m going to be in ten years.” The reason why I have such a hard time answering it is because I am doing what I want to be doing. I love my house and where I live. I’m not moving. I have a great lifestyle and good friends. Maybe the only difference in ten years would be bigger and more elaborate outdoor trips, involving a helicopter or boat plane or something like that. More time off, elaborate trips and possibly a kid. That’s something that is on the table. Ryan wants a baby. I’m like, “Pregnancy?”

Pregnancy is the easy bit. When the kid comes along, that’s the hard bit.

It must be rewarding. Don’t you think it’s rewarding?

It’s a bit of a thankless job. It’s a cliche, but it’s a love that you have never felt before. My kids have helped me get through some of the darkest days of my life. They give me purpose and reason to look after myself and to better myself. They do make me a better person. I wouldn’t have it any other way. With that said, it’s also been the hardest thing I’ve ever done and the beginning stages of having kids, it was rough. It depends on how you set yourself up. I didn’t do myself any favors. It is rewarding in its own way. Your kids may not show their gratitude much, but it’s rewarding. It gives you a reason to be better and do better. Therefore, it’s exciting.

TWCK 41 | Personal Life
Personal Life: The system was designed to be for the people made by the people. What it has become is for rich jerks made by rich jerks.


It’s true when I’m thinking of growing up and being a little shit like a little asshole. I was like, “I hate you.”

That’s the stuff that isn’t so fun. Everything you take the good with the bad and the overall picture of it all. Anything that’s a challenge in life can make you or break you.

I like to think that we have a good lifestyle set up because we do both work from home.

You guys do. You have it set up well. You have done right. I didn’t do myself any favors when I had my kids, but that was several years ago when I had my first kid. What I know now is so much different from what I knew back then. You already know a lot of this stuff so I think you would be coming into a very good place mentally and physically. That’s how I do it.

We’ll only have one kid and this is going to offend a lot of people. When I tell people I’m only going to have one kid, people are like, “Single children are so weird and they have no friends.” I’m like, “I’m already in my late 30s, guys. It’s not going to happen.”

I don’t subscribe to that at all. This is going to be interesting. I have never seen you wear a mask on your social media. What is your stance on masks?

It’s so interesting that people want to know these things about me. I don’t wear a mask. That’s my personal choice.

On social media, you’re not around anybody.

I work from home. I’m not wearing a mask on social media because I’m always alone or in the forest. To be completely honest with you, I have yet to wear a mask in my own life and that’s my choice. I don’t judge people for their choices. I understand why people wear them and want to wear them. I haven’t seen a lot of data to back up the reason why. I worry about how it’s affecting society because you can’t see people’s faces and I can’t see people’s smiles. That makes me sad. I don’t even recognize people. My assistant, Jennifer, who I have worked with for two years, came up to me in the grocery store and she walked right up to me. I was like deer caught in the headlights because I was like, “I know this person, but I couldn’t make the connection.” I would’ve walked right by her if she hadn’t said hi to me. It’s a tough thing. I’m a big conspiracy theory person so I’ve gone down a lot of rabbit holes.

I think what you mean is you are a critical thinker.

My choice is to not wear one. I’m also very lucky that they’re not mandatory anywhere and where they are, I just put on a big smile and walk in. No one has ever said anything to me as of yet. We’ll see how that goes.

I can share similar beliefs, thoughts and a lot of things. I’m the same. We don’t have any mask mandates here, but it’s so much bigger than wearing a mask. I don’t think that’s the solution in any way, shape or form. The people who think wearing a mask is the answer are missing many different pieces of the puzzle.

It is a bigger piece of the puzzle. With the data that we have now and showing how dangerous COVID is, I’m wondering if that’s the case, if we are wearing masks for something that has such a high success rate, then are we ever going to be taking them off? I do think about that. I don’t believe in a one-size-fits-all approach. Maybe it makes sense to wear masks in big urban centers like Los Angeles, New York City where there are a lot more people. I live in this tiny town of 10,000. We’ve had eleven COVID cases total. In a fairly large area, with all the outlying areas, we’re probably around 80,000, 100,000 people. We don’t have cases here.

We don’t have any cases where I live, in my actual suburb here. There’s a lot of nonsensical things occurring. You just don’t know whether he is thinking or thinking critically. We’re not focusing on the things that are going to support us moving forward. It’s a Band-Aid solution. We talk about that in functional health all the time. Is it really what’s going to help people in the long run?

It’s hard for me to get behind the mask thing when I don’t see public health officials talking about the things that make people susceptible to getting things like viruses or heart disease.

We’re not even talking about also like you were saying, a very high survival rate for people who are under the age of 65. We’re not getting all the facts about who is most at risk, why they’re most at risk and what you can do about that.

We’re not talking about the basics of health. That’s the big problem with our medical system in general. It’s a total Band-Aid approach. I choose not to wear one. I’ll never wear one on social media guys because I’m usually alone in my office.

If you wear it on social media, you’re not doing it to protect yourself or others. It’s a stance you’re taking. It’s a statement. The next question is what are some quirky things about you?

I like to be silly and weird. I love to dance outside in weird places. I’m trying to think of what else is quirky about me.

TWCK 41 | Personal Life
Personal Life: You need to pay attention to what’s happening with the government and what they are telling you to do and not to do.


You go for hikes and you talk to me on Voxer when you’re like, “There’s some fresh bear poop. It’s cool. Where do I find that bear?” I’m like, “No, Kendra, do not walk to the bear. There’s a frozen lake and a blizzard is coming. I see some fresh bear shit, but I’m just going to stay out here.”

It’s so funny to me because that’s so normal. I worked in the forest for so long. I’ve had a million-bear encounter and it doesn’t stress me out.

I was thinking you and I in the forest of BC because I lived in BC for six years. I’ve seen black bears. It would be a very funny thing because you’d be like cool ass. You’d be like, “Let’s keep going to the mountains.” I’d be like, “Kendra, I don’t think this is a good idea. I think we should turn around.” You’d be dragging me.

When I see black bears, I start screaming at them and throwing rocks. That’s actually what I do. I don’t try to hit them with the rocks. I’m trying to scare the shit out of them because it’s all about being the dominant one. You want to be more dominant. I would not do that with a grizzly bear. That is not a good approach for a grizzly bear. They’re very different animals. I haven’t had a ton of grizzly bear encounters. I would probably shit my pants if I had a close up with a grizzly bear.

Have you seen a grizzly bear in the wild?

Yeah. One time we got flown on top of this mountain to do some forestry work and the helicopter took off. I started working with this company. I was with one other woman was working with. We started walking and all of a sudden, we looked across this gully and there was a massive grizzly bear. It got up and made a big sound. It showed us that like, “Don’t come over there.” We’re like, “Okay.” We’re like, “We can’t go over there.” That’s where we’re supposed to work. I turned to my partner and I was like, “Let’s get on comms and we’ll call the pilot and get them to come to pick us up.” She’s like, “We don’t have comms.” I was like, “I’m sorry, what?” She’s like, “Yeah, we don’t have comms. We have these short-range radios. We don’t have the repeater,” which repeats the signal and allows you to get in touch with the pilot. I was like, “What the fuck?”

We stood on this mountain, watching this grizzly bear, eating huckleberries, getting slowly, closer to us every now and then standing up, letting us know, like, “Don’t fuck with me.” We had nowhere else to go except down into the valley. There was a road at the bottom of the valley that probably would have taken us hours to get there, but it was a deactivated road, meaning that they pull all the bridges. There might be a river or a big creek that we can’t even cross. We were up there for eight hours in the cold, watching this bear get closer to us. We had a “fuck it” point where once it gets to that point, we’re saying, “Fuck it.” We’re going for the road. It got very close within about 30 feet of our “fuck it” point and then the helicopter came back. I was pissed. I was like, “How do you send people into the bush without comms? This is fucked out. It was completely illegal.” That’s my grizzly bear story.

I’ve asked you this before, but I don’t think I remember your answer. There is a show called Alone.

You told me about that.

You would love it. You will do well on it. They’re survivalists. They go to Vancouver Island and that’s the first couple of series. They’re on Vancouver Island and they have to survive. They have to try to out survive everybody else and they win $500,000. It’s a cool show.

I would definitely like that. I’m going to check it out.

What type of diet do you eat?

I’m eating a ketogenic diet. Prior to that, I was doing straight-up gluten-free with some grains here and there. I was noticing the sugar and the carbs starting to creep up. I always do something in the fall. I always like to do a little cleanse so I decided to do this three-month ketogenic diet. I’m in a high level of ketosis as for my little blow stick but I do not feel any different. I feel nothing in terms of how I feel. We’ll see. I’m going to stick it out and see how it goes. I’ll then make a decision whether I say, “fuck it” or maybe I switched to a cyclic thing because I do like it. I like that I don’t feel super full and indulge as much. It gives me an excuse not to eat dessert at my boyfriend’s parents’ house.

His mom was an amazing cook, but she always makes this super-rich, sugary dessert. It’s always at 9:30. I hate eating dessert. Why can’t we eat dessert for the appetizer? I would be more down with that. We’ll see how it goes. I don’t want to be on a ketogenic diet, strictly long-term. I don’t think that’s super healthy, but I’ve been doing that with a bit of fasting. What’s cool is I did the ketogenic diet a few years ago when it was the first became a thing in the biohacker world, but now it’s trendy. There are all these products. I can get this delicious keto bread. It’s fun.

I’ll be interested to hear how it goes because a lot of people I hear who do the keto diet feel a clear up and happier. That’s what interests me about it.

When I did it the first time, I got those things. I remember I lost some weight. I felt focused. I got energy. This was at the point where my health and my energy were quite bad. I don’t know if that’s the difference. I would lose 5 or 10 pounds and be stoked about it, but that hasn’t happened yet. We’ll see what happens. There is something to be said to access those metabolic pathways that we never access. That can’t be a bad thing to do it sometimes.

You mentioned before that you used to trim weed for money. I remember you talking about this. I want to know more about that.

I have mentioned that randomly. It’s funny that people hold on to that. Weed is now legal in Canada. It’s completely legal for me to talk about this. The town I live in is very much built on the illegal marijuana industry. In the ‘60s, ‘70s with the Vietnam War, my town got a lot of draft dodgers and those people were illegal and could not work. That jump-started this huge outdoor weed growing industry that pretty much powered the entire town up until now. We have all this amazing food and restaurants. The reason for that is because they were drug fronts. Most of the businesses in this town were originally drug fronts, which is for money laundering.

TWCK 41 | Personal Life
Personal Life: Social media is a tool, and it just amplifies who you truly are.


When I first moved here several years ago, I heard through the grapevine that you could get a job trimming weed, cutting off the leaves and stuff. It was good money. I was like, “I want to get into this.” Those are jobs. They don’t give them to random people who show up in town. I was working for the government as a forest firefighter. This woman I was working with I became good friends with and she was heavily involved in that industry. She ended up getting me a job. I did that job every fall. It is crazy the amount of weed that these guys would pull off the mountains. They’d be hiking up mountains, putting 100 pounds of weed into their big totes. They built these specific backpacks for it. They would pull it off the mountains. It was super illegal. I remember we’d be trimming. A helicopter would go over and we’d all hide in the shed. It was so crazy.

I ended up doing that a bunch every fall. I got into working for some of the indoor shows, some more year-round work. There were these two brothers. They’re still growing, but now they do it legally. They bootstrapped my business. When I was new in my business and I was struggling and I wasn’t making money, I would be picking up work from them. At one point, I was making hash in a washing machine in the garage like a total dirtbag. Anytime I needed work, I’d be like, “I’m low on cash.” They’d be like, “That’s sweet. We need something to clean the garage.” I would clean their garage. I appreciate them so much because they helped me finance the start of my business and not to go broke in the beginning. I would never do it again though. It’s a terrible job. You sit in a room for twelve hours and talk to crazy people, which can be fun sometimes. Other times, it’s not so fun.

Yay for the society finally realizing that as adults, we can make informed decisions about what we put in our body now.

What right does the government have to tell us how we can affect our consciousness?

Thank you very much government, but no, thank you.

I’d love to see them legalize all street drugs because I don’t think that the war on drugs has amounted to anything positive.

Where has been your favorite country to travel to?

I would say Bolivia. It was one of the most unique, very traditional and probably close to their traditional way. It wasn’t very Westernized, or it was the least Westernized country I ever went to. It was so unique. The landscape was unique. It was a crazy experience because I traveled there alone when I was 24, 25. I was so culture shocked. I have only been to Australia and New Zealand at that point. It was a big change, but I had so much fun. I met a lot of great people. I felt I got exposed to a lot of unique and interesting culture.

If you had to vote in the US election, who would you vote for?

Tulsi Gabbard, I know she wasn’t a candidate. I’m not American. You guys know this so I couldn’t vote in the US election. She was the only candidate that I felt I could get behind. It’s unfortunate that she lost out as the Democratic nominee to Joe Biden. I don’t get that. I have no idea who I would have voted for, but what I will say is I would not have voted for Joe Biden. It’s not the same as a Trump supporter. Don’t send me to hate and tell me I’m a Trump supporter. Something I want to say about politics, in general, is the system is so broken and I’m not talking about the States. I’m talking about Canada too. The system was designed to be for the people made by the people and what it has become is for rich assholes made by rich assholes. Until that changes, I don’t think we can look to politicians to be our leaders or save us or help people. They are more concerned in the interest of their party than they are in the interest of their people. That is a big problem. I read that the US spends $4 billion a month on the war in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, people are starving on the streets.

I’m not trying to bash the US because Canada spends money on war too less than the US. Homelessness is also a massive problem in Canada. Our aboriginals don’t have clean water. Still Flint Michigan does not have clean water. How long ago was that? The amount of money is wasted on war. Regime change wars that ultimately ended up making the countries a lot worse off if we look at how it’s gone in Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya. It’s hard to see people with the US election hating on each other so much. I understand that people hate Trump, but what people accuse Trump of, you can say the same things for Biden. That’s what I don’t get. We’re fighting over grandpas who both have sexual assault charges against them.

They both do exactly. You and I have talked about this. You are quite knowledgeable about politics. You’ve studied politics. You understand that more than I do. I’ve been learning a lot and doing a lot more investigation. It comes back to that critical thinking. Whereas a lot of people are parroting what the mainstream media tells them and that the mainstream media has a lot to answer for. The hate and the division that has occurred and people are buying into it. That’s where I feel very disappointed. I couldn’t care less who you voted for. What I do care about is if you’re judging others, if you’re hating on others and if you’re part of the problem. If you’re not doing any critical thinking and you’re watching mainstream media, then that’s a problem.

If you’re parroting what you’re hearing and you’re passionate about it, and you’re opinionated about it, when you haven’t done any research on the other side, that’s a problem. If you find yourself hating on somebody who supports Trump, that’s a problem and vice versa. That’s my biggest concern. The system is broken by too much ego, not enough sentiment for the greater good and it’s a real shame what’s happened. It’s the hate, the divisiveness and the mainstream media, that’s my biggest concern is the media is despicable.

I imagine if all the energy that was spent hating the other side was spent to dismantle the political system and bring it back to what it is supposed to be. Imagine what we could do because we do have a lot of power as individuals. I’m sick of seeing these super corrupt politicians who don’t give a fuck about us. The fact that we are at each other’s throats is better for them because we fail to see what’s going on at the top, which is a ton of corruption. A ton of our taxpayer money being put towards things that we would never support and not helping the people who need help.

Tulsi Gabbard was on Joe Rogan podcast, which I have a lot of respect for because I would love to see Trump and Biden get on Joe Rogan and speak for three hours because I don’t even know what those guys are about. I feel like Trump speaks in like, “It’s amazing. Everything’s amazing. We’re doing so well on that. It’s the best.” I was like, “Who are these people? This is crazy.” There was an interview with Tulsi in 2019. She was a nominee for the Democratic Party. That’s not to say that I’m a Democrat but I believe she cares about people. She’s a sixteen-year war veteran. She’s seen what had happened in the war and these other countries. She has some interesting ideas. I believe that it is something I would love to see people get behind. That’s a funny question. It’s like here we are Canada and Australia.

I would love to know your opinion on the Coronavirus. Where do you sit?

We’ve covered this with the mask thing. It’s a virus that’s happening, but I do not believe that the response to it is equal to that of the danger of the virus, and that does not mean I hate old people. I want to throw that out there. I love old people. They do matter too. My parents are in their late 70s. My dad is even susceptible to lung infections and they agree with me. I don’t believe in lockdowns or in shutting down the economy. It’s unfortunate that there are few conversations happening about drug overdose, suicide, depression and mental health in general. I don’t know what we’re doing as a human race. I think we need to pay attention to what’s happening in the world with the government and what they are telling us to do and what not to do because it is a slippery slope with that. Not that I’m the expert, but there are ways in which we can protect the people who are vulnerable without destroying our society.

It comes back to critical thinking again, and not just listening to what your governments and mainstream media are telling you. You start to think, “I’m going to question a few things and look at all sides of the coin and make up your mind.” Not just make up my mind according to what you tell me to make my mind about. There are ways to protect the elderly and those that are more vulnerable to COVID or do that without shutting down the entire economy and without putting other people at risk, those who are in domestic violence situations. Suicide rates are climbing. There are so many things to consider. I should be wearing my Defund the Media shirt. The media and government tell you what they want you to believe and the narrative they want you to speak. The people who blatantly nod along speak it, they are not thinking critically. Quite frankly, there’s a lot of ignorance going on.

TWCK 41 | Personal Life
You Can Heal Your Life

I feel like what started out like two weeks to flatten the curve so as not to overwhelm our medical system turned into something very different. It has become very political especially in the US. We should be trying to manage the virus and not eliminate it because what they’re trying to do is get cases down to zero. Cases that don’t require the medical system shouldn’t be that big of a concern for us. What’s going on is there’s a lot of people living in fear or who are getting progressively unhealthier. Unless we address the root cause of people’s health issues, it’s unlikely that we’re not going to have another pandemic and there is not just going to be another virus. A lot of it comes down to the fact that people are afraid of risk. I don’t think people realize that being a human being alive on this planet comes with risk. We cannot lower risk to zero unless you want to live in a plastic bubble inside your house, yet you’re still going to have risk. It’s interesting to see people like “We have to save everyone.” If that were a true argument, then we should stop driving.

There are many things that are riskier. This might be an unpopular viewpoint, but with life comes death. That happens. It’s not a tragedy if you die in your 90s, quite frankly. I don’t want anybody to die, but we do. Every one of us will and let’s hope that we all get into our 90s and that occurs for us all. What a tragedy is if somebody’s dying like I’ve experienced at the age of 65 from something that was probably preventable. That to me is a tragedy. I don’t want anybody to die before their time. It would be great if we could all live well into our 90s, but we have to be realistic about life here on earth.

It will come to an end one way or another. Few people go to sleep and peacefully pass away. There’s that whole side of the coin. Sometimes it sounds from politicians all death is tragic. I don’t believe all death is tragic. I have a very spiritual viewpoint on death. I do not believe somebody dying in their 90s is a tragedy. You’re so lucky to be able to live to that stage. I have a different viewpoint on it. As we talked about with the masks, it’s this Band-Aid solution, lock everybody down and wait for a vaccine. That’s not the answer. The answer is let’s promote health and what we can do to support our bodies the best we can. We will always walk through life. You will always come up against risks or viruses or things that came through you. How do we walk through life in the best possible way so that we protect ourselves as best we can until after comes and it will come for all of us?

You are preaching to the choir. I’m on the same page with you. I don’t know what is happening anymore. Both of us are lucky and that we live in places that aren’t super affected by what’s going on in terms of not only of the virus but in terms of government control.

We are very lucky where we live.

If you want to know my true opinion about Coronavirus, go subscribe to JP Sears on YouTube, watch his videos and watch That’s one of the best documentaries put out on the pandemic. If you think I’m just a conspiracy theorist, you should listen to the interview with Mikki Willis on the JP Sears Podcast, because that guy is pretty committed to truth. He has a whole team who is fact-checking his stuff and 100% stands behind it. You can find that information if you do the research but not on Google.

If you’re calling people a conspiracy theorist, it’s a plain out judgment. I am not at all judgmental. I want to know what your exercise routine looks like? Walking with bears in the woods, running away from there.

Walking with bears on Voxer, talking to Tara and scaring the shit out of her. It varies by season and depending on the sport of the season. In November, which is the most important month where I live because I can’t quite ski yet. Biking is done. I’m going to the gym twice a week and doing a cross-training, high-intensity strength training exercise. I do Pilates once a week with my lovely assistant, Jennifer because she’s also a Pilates instructor. I’m doing a powerlifting class on Fridays to lift heavyweights. I’m way more of a strength person. I suck at endurance. I do a lot of endurance sports, but I’m suffering the entire time. I like way better at power sports, but I try to get up and go for a walk in the morning. I try to do a bit of light stretching and then I try to do some higher intensity movement every day, but I also get lazy sometimes.

That’s a lot more than what I do. What is the advice that you would give to your high school self?

“Kendra, it’s going to be okay. It gets better. You have your whole life ahead of you.” I struggled with so much anxiety in high school. I didn’t have a great relationship with my parents. We fought a lot. They were very strict and controlling. I was very much a free spirit. I was always grounded and in shit. I struggled a lot. I put a lot of pressure on myself to do well with my grades. I was straight A student. I got so stressed out over it. I would say that your high school grades don’t matter. Just have fun because they don’t. The messaging is crazy. They’re like, “This determines the rest of your life. Don’t mess up your life.” It’s like, “I went to school for environmental science and I am a business coach. How did that happen? It doesn’t matter.”

What book are you reading now?

I’ve got a few funny ones. They’re very opposite. I always have three on the go. The first one is called Why Buddhism Is True and it’s a book about Buddhism. I’m having a hard time getting into it at the beginning. I was into and now they’re talking about mindfulness and I get it. I know mindfulness is good. I’m going to try to finish it. I started You Are Intuitive by Natalie Miles. She was a guest expert in my mastermind program and the woman is completely intuitive. She knew everything about my life. I got her book learning about my intuition. The third book I’m reading is called The Trigger, which is a David Icke book about the 9/11 conspiracy. I love a good conspiracy. It’s a 1,500-page book about 9/11. It’s an amazing history lesson. It’s a very well-researched book. I know David Icke has some fucking crazy shit and I don’t know at what point if we’re going to end up on lizards, but it’s a great book. I highly recommend it, but it’s not for the faint of heart, but I love dark stuff and going dark.

What book has had the greatest impact on your life?

I would say, Louise Hay’s You Can Heal Your Life. That was a big turning point for me because before I read that book, I was a victim. I was in that victimhood mentality. Especially when it came to my dating life, I’d been single for 7 or 8 years. I was so lonely. I have had this attitude that I was never going to be loved. I was going to be single forever and die alone. There were no men in my town. When I read that book, I realized that I was creating that reality for myself. I started shifting my internal dialogue around relationships and started changing that. I met a guy within a month of reading that book. It’s not the man that I’m with now, but it was a good turning point for me because it made me realize that I was in control of my life. That was a big change for me.

That book has had a big impact on many people’s lives. It had a big impact on my life too. That victim mentality is such a dangerous one. The world at large at the moment needs to take note, but the victim mentality is never going to serve you. For the last question, if you have watched Social Dilemma, what are your thoughts on it?

I have a lot of thoughts on that.

I haven’t watched it yet because I’m scared. I don’t want to watch it. It’s like EMS. I don’t want to go there. Anyway, what are your thoughts?

For those of you guys who don’t know it’s a documentary on Netflix that you can go watch about the damages of social media. I was on board for the first part, but it made a steep turn at one point. They started talking about how the algorithm shows more of what you’re engaging with. Social media is the reason why people believe in conspiracy theories. They start out with flat Earth conspiracy theory. That’s like a weird conspiracy theory, but flat Earth quickly changed to people questioning the COVID-19 narrative. It went to Pizzagate, which is interesting. If you guys don’t know what that is, you can look up Hillary Clinton and John Podesta emails.

I realized that social media can put us in an echo chamber and we need to be aware of that echo chamber of which it can put us on. If we are only engaging with the same type of people, then that is all we are going to get shown. Is that the cause of the division and the polarization in our society? No. We have to look at the people who are leading our countries because we look at the top. We can look at this like we are looking at political parties who are leaders and spend millions of our money, our taxpayer dollars on slander campaigns, on slandering the other person. Will a Republican ever support a Democratic legislative bill? No, not even if they believe it because they don’t care about that. They only want to act in the way that their party acts and what’s the benefit of their party.

I don’t think the polarization is because of social media. I think it’s because of what we’re seeing on the media and in the world, which is nothing new. The thing was social media is it’s a tool and it amplifies who you truly are. If you are an asshole, you’re going to be an extra asshole online. If you’re a good person, you’re going to be even great. I felt like social media was very much the scapegoat. I also felt it was fucked up because this film was edited in the COVID times. We’re dealing with a world where social media is truly the only way a lot of people have to connect with each other because that in-person connection has been stripped away from them. You have this documentary that’s telling people that social media is bad. You need to get off of social media so they can be more disconnected. Social media truly is one of the few ways we can see alternative viewpoints. I was not on board.

For so long, the mainstream media has been pushing a narrative and an agenda, then along comes social media and we are hearing different sides of the coin. People are listening and thinking, “Hold up, that’s not something I’ve ever heard before.” Why do you think there’s a sense of shit? It’s because people are now able to amplify their voices. It’s not necessarily falling in line and towing the line with the mainstream narrative. Media outlets are saying, “This is bad news.” People are trying to see other sides of the coin that we don’t want them to see because of social media. That’s when censorship comes into play. Social media has done a great service for critical thinking and allowing us to explore different avenues, but a great disservice to the mainstream narrative.

It was interesting in the movie because they made it seem like Facebook, they don’t know that this is happening and they’re doing this and that. I’m like, “I’m not stupid.” When people get de-platformed, they get de-platformed against several platforms at once within the same 24 hours. There’s some communication happening. These apparently are like separate platforms. I didn’t love that documentary. I also don’t think a lot of people saw what I saw. There was a lot of subliminal messaging in there that was quite subtle and I don’t think a lot of people saw it.

They also had a scene of a protest. This kid was going into his echo chamber and down the rabbit hole in social media. He ended up at a protest and his sister went to find them. It was like a peaceful protest that suddenly went violent and they got arrested. I was like, “That’s interesting messaging.” Don’t go to a protest because you might get arrested. I wasn’t a big fan. Social media algorithms can manipulate us. They are collecting our information and learning more about us so they can advertise to us and show us more of what we want in order to keep us on the platform. That is their business model. In the movie, they discussed this business model like it was this brand-new thing, but it’s not. That’s how advertising works and has worked since the beginning of time.

In the end, there is something to be said about education around social media especially with children. We do need to make our kids aware of how social media can affect them. We do need to become more intelligent at using it. I don’t think the solution is to go off social media. It also speaks to the fact that this movie is made during COVID times where everyone has to start an online business now because all these people lost their jobs. We’re telling everyone to get off social media where meanwhile, like entrepreneurs, small business owners rely on social media to get their message out there. It was a very flawed perspective.

Nothing in life is black and white. That’s part of the problem in this political is people are saying things as black and white. That’s not what it is. It’s the same for social media, it’s not all bad and good. We’ve got to be discerning and have that critical thinking. We’ve got to understand how to use it responsibly. My question is, I always like to know who funds these things. Who funded The Social Dilemma? Can anybody tell me who funded it? It’s usually when you follow the money, you get some answers. That would be interesting.

The main guy who created it used to work at Google. All the people in the movie had some high-level people, like the person who created the like button on Facebook, the engineer who created that and all these different people who used to work for Pinterest or Periscope who were seeing the manipulation around social media. There is this noble message in it. I don’t think the way in which, they want people to get off social. We all can get off social media to some degree and spend less time on it. We need to be intentional in the way that we use it, but I believe it’s a tool. The problem is not social media. The problem is the people. Social media is just amplifying the pain, the trauma and the wounds that are in society.

It comes a little bit back to that victim mentality. Social media is the problem. No. Take responsibility for your own thinking the way you’re getting your information and how you use these platforms. Don’t throw away your power and say, “Social media is a problem.” No, it’s your problem. You have to deal with it.

We all have the choice to be on it or not. We can choose to be healthy with it. I’m trying to do a bit of an intentional social media distancing and it feels good. I still use it for my business, but the way in which we use social media for our business is truly amazing. We get to connect or help people and educate. I love social media for that, but there is a dark side to it.

My business besties, I would never know them if it wasn’t for social media. I wouldn’t have a business and reaching women and educating them on things that they don’t know nothing about. Nothing is black and white. There are all different shades of gray in this world and that boils down to everything. That’s it for our questions.

I felt that was a mixture of fun and nice. You guys want to know some intense stuff about me, which is cool. I’m down. I love going deep and dark. Thanks, Tara, for doing this with me. This was super fun to hang out with you. Guys, thank you so much for tuning in.

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